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Le vieulx mocqué & privé de sa place,
Par l’estrangier que le subornera :
Mains de son fils mangees devant sa face
Le frere à Chartres, Orl, Rouen trahira.
The last line indicates a French placement of this quatrain. The only old one of France who was mocked and deprived of his place was Marshal Pétain. If this is the case, then the foreigner would be Adolf Hitler, who not only deprived Pétain of all power in 1943; he also was the true ruler of France till the end of 1944. But the last two lines are curious. Pétain had no son, and as far as I know he had no brother. If this refers to him, then the brother and son part would have to be symbolic, which does not seem to fit the tenor of the first two lines. He did betray the cities listed in line 4, because as head of Vichy he betrayed all of France, its principles and its ideals. But line 3 is beyond my ability to figure out.
I will have to leave it to the reader to either figure out what I am missing in this interpretation, or to come up with a more accurate one.
Un coronel machine ambition,
Se saisira de la plus grand armée,
Contre son prince fainte invention,
Et descouvert sera soibz la ramée.
Translation Note: Coronel is one of two old French spellings for the military rank. It was the spelling that eventually lost out to colonel, which became the actual spelling of the name of the rank not only in the French speaking world but the English speaking world as well.
Colonel Thomas Pride led a coup that would become known as Pride’s Purge against the Long Parliament. This coup prevented the seating of any members who did not agree with the views of his regiment. This deliberately treasonous act would establish the Rump Parliament, which voted to execute King Charles of England, which was exactly what Pride and his regiment wanted. Pride served in the New People’s Army under the authority of Oliver Cromwell.
The reference to the vine refers to Oliver Cromwell. Cromwell saw himself as having a divine mission that came to him from Jesus. The reference to the vine here is explained by the Bible: John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches” and is testimony to where Cromwell felt his mission came from. He believed quite firmly that God (the vine) played a hand in directing the world through chosen people, like himself (the branches). He was convinced that by the victories he enjoyed and the defeats he suffered that God was guiding him. Cromwell was convinced that the tool God ultimately gave him was the New Model Army, established by the very Parliament that Pride closed down. Pride was therefore acting “under the vine.” His purge would literally mean he was “discovered under the vine” (become public while under the authority of Cromwell).
Cromwell himself was not around when Pride performed his purge, being up north dealing with Royalist resistance, but once he discovered what had happened, he was convinced that it was a divine act. He promptly supported it and had the king executed. The prince is, of course, Charles I, King of England and Scotland.
The greater army captured was the Parliamentary/Royalist/Scotish army during the Second English Civil War. It was much larger than the New Model Army, but its efficiency and discipline was much less than that of the New Model Army. Some of the armies sent were twice the size of the New Model Army detachments they faced. It ultimately did not matter who opposed Cromwell, the New Model Army beat everyone.
L’armee Celtique contre les monraignars,
Qui seront sceuz & prins à la lipee :
Paysants fresz pouseront tost faugnars,
Precipitez tous au fil de l’espée.
The Celtic army could only be the French army. The mountaineers is the key to this. As far as I know, there are several possibilities: the highlanders of Scotland, the Swiss who live in the Alpine mountains, or the Mountain, the Montagnards of the French Revolution who reigned during the Reign of Terror. Concerning the last, a group of Montagnards were destroyed during the Thermidorian Reaction of July 26th, 1794. This quatrain tells their story.
The Committee of Public Safety, headed by Montagnardians Robespierre and St. Just, tried to accuse people in the National Convention of treason. The Convention, representing all of France, shouted them down and ordered their arrest. Robespierre got troops to support him, but the Convention ordered the army, under the Vicomte de Barras, to enforce the arrest. The Committee members retired to what even they knew was a trap of their own making, the Hôtel de Ville. Several killed themselves, others, like Robespierre may have tried to kill themselves and failed. After a brief struggle, the members of the Committee were apprehended and executed the next day. Discredited, what was left of the Montagnards soon disbanded.
Le deffaillant en habit de bourgeois,
Viendra le Roy tempter de son offence :
Quinze souldartz la pluspart Vstagois,
Vie derniere & chef de sa cheuance.
This sounds like the trial of Louis XVI of France. He was the last of what was known as the Ancient Regime. Tried as Citizen Capet, he was eventually executed. If this interpretation is correct, then the guilty would be Robespierre and the Committee of Public Safety, which was made up of one-time middle class (bourgeois) people. However, I cannot determine who the fifteen are.
Au deserteur de la grand forteresse,
Apres qu’aura son lieu abandonné :
Son adversaire sera si grand provesse,
L’empereur tost mort sera condemné.
Because of the state of mobilization in the French Army, ineptitude of supply especially at the beginning of the war, and overall leadership by an ailing Emperor, France was almost doomed to lose this war anyway. That said, the Prussians did a botched up job. If events had shifted just a little bit, France may have won through a solid defensive strategy.
Three battles are key: The Battle of Gravelotte, the Battle of Sedan and the Siege of Metz. Officially France lost all 3 battles, but the casualty figures of Gravelotte shows how the French should have won the war.
The French leader was Marshal François Achille Bazaine. Bazaine followed the lessons he had learned in the Mexican Empire and the American Civil War (which he witnessed) and deliberately kept to the defensive. The casualty figures of the battle of Gravelotte confirm his opinion. It is true that the French, just defending, lost over seven thousand men, yet the Prussians in just attacking had lost over twenty thousand. Though the French lost, it was a phyric victory for the Prussians.
Following his principle, instead of attacking, Bazaine retreated to Metz. Napoléon III, however, was determined to launch an offensive and raised an army, the Army of Châlons, which he personally led. Trapped by the Prussians, Napoléon ordered a breakout and the French constantly attacked the Prussian lines, to no avail. Finally, the Prussians launched one attack at a weakened sector and succeeded. Napoléon then ordered three more attacks against the strong point of the Prussian army, each time beaten back with fearful losses. The next day, Napoléon surrendered the Army of Châlons.
Two days later, the imperial government was overthrown and the Third Republic was established. And here is where the focus of the quatrain begins. Bazaine was a certified Bonapartist. As soon as he heard what had happened, he stopped trying to win the war and opened up secret negotiations with the Prussians and the Emperor’s wife, Eugeine. He wanted to get the war to end so he could turn around and “save the country of France from itself” by re-imposing Napoléon on the nation. However, Moltke, the Prussian Captain General, was more interested in winning the war and crushing the French. Consequently, Bazaine’s diplomatic efforts went for naught. Then, instead of following his instincts and continuing the defensive, he bowed to the wishes of his underlying generals and surrendered Metz.
It was the final blow to the French armed forces. Moltke quickly marched his troops forward and relieved forward troops who were fighting in the Loire area. His forces were able to enjoy complete freedom of action and movement throughout France. France was doomed to defeat. And though official blame was laid at Bazaine’s feet with a bogus letter that supported a charge of treason, Napoléon, who would be dead in eighteen months, was justifiably condemned for the defeat at Sedan and his surrender to Prussia.
As a point of interest, it must be noted that if Bazaine had waited just one week more, which his strategy could have made possible, it is likely that the French army raised by the Committee of National Defense would have defeated the advanced Prussian forces. After Sedan, it is unlikely that this victory would have prevented the inevitable, but at least it would have been a blow for the honor of France.
Soubz couleur faincte de sept testes rafees
Seront femés diverse explorateurs :
Puys & fonraines de poy sons arrousées,
Au fort de Gennes humains devorateurs.
Supposedly both Hitler and Mussolini had seven primary supporters. But how true this is, or what either of these has to do with Genoa, is beyond me.
L’an que Saturne & Mars esgaulx combust,
L’air fort seiché longue traiection :
Par feux secretz, d’ardeur grand lieu adust
Peu pluye, vent chault, guerres, incursions.
The key here is in line 1: Saturn and Mars, being equally combustible. This most likely refers to a conjunction of Saturn and Mars in a fire sign, which occurs approximately every ten years. Most likely, it refers to the conjunction in the sign of Aries, the most fiery and “combustible” of the fire signs. Saturn last conjoined Mars in Aries in April of 1998. But Saturn transited Aries in 67-69 and 37-39. 1937-1939 saw the preparations for the Second World War, along with its eruption. 1967 saw the 6 day war. 1998 saw a huge fire occur in the Amazon Rain Forest.
The thing about each of these disasters is this: Not once were all of the criteria fulfilled.
Remember Nostradamus’s dictate that a quatrain refers to a single place, a single time or a single event. Remember also that all of the criteria must be met before the quatrain is fulfilled. Also, unless I am completely mistaken, the long trajection is usually a comet (though, as will be described below, it can be something else).
The second world war fails because of the lack of a comet. The six day war fails for roughly the same reason. And the firestorm in the Amazon – while the long trajection could refer to the area where the smoke covered, where was the war? Wars occurred in Europe, Asia and Africa, not in Brazil.
And while most commentators interpret seiché as being hot or dry, I find it is cuttlefish, which seems to make no sense, unless it is used to narrow the area where this can be fulfilled to the old world.
We can go back into history, for Saturn enters Aries every 30 years, remaining approximately 2½ years. Mars takes 2 years to do a circuit. Therefore, Mars conjoins Saturn in Aries approximately every thirty years. There is only one problem. The secret fires of the third line does sound uncomfortably like thermonuclear power, which would place it squarely in modern times.
I would look to the future for the fulfillment of this quatrain. As Saturn conjoins Mars in Aries every thirty or so years, this has a good probability of being fulfilled.
En l’an bien proche non esloigné de Venus,
Les deux plus grans de l’Asie & d’Afrique
Du Ryn & Hister qu on dira sont venus,
Crys, pleurs à Malte & costé ligustique.
The first line makes no sense if one takes Venus as being the planet. However, it does make some sense if one takes it as being representative of the goddess, or of her special area of romance and, in this case, lust.
With this in mind, the rest of the quatrain falls into place. This is definitely one of the Hister quatrains, which refers to Hitler. Hister has a double meaning. It not only refers to the notorious dictator, it also refers to the Ister, or Danube river. Hitler was defined by the Rhine and Danube rivers. He was born in Braunau am Inn, a town near the Danube river, grew up in Linz, also along the Danube river, and lived a number of years in Vienna, which is also along the Danube river. The Tripartite Pact, signed in Berlin, was definitely Hitler’s creation, one that the other two nations agreed to, and his lust (Venus) for world domination was apparent. This lust was also apparent by the subsequent actions of the other two leaders, Mussolini’s lust to recreate the Roman Empire, and Japan’s lust to create a Greater Japanese Empire.
The great ones of Asia and Africa are Togo of Japan and Mussolini of Italy, respectively. Togo wanted to build a Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, with Japan ruling it. Mussolini wanted to rebuild the Roman Empire, which would include many parts of Africa. To complete the quatrain, Malta endured several years of virtual siege and hunger during the upcoming war. And the linguistic coast could refer to the French and Italian coast in the Mediterranean– it was certainly attacked and the inhabitants shed much tears during the war.
La cité grande les exilés tiendront,
Les citadins morts meurtris & chassés,
Ceux d’Aquilee à Parme promettront,
Monstrer l’entree par les lieux non trassés.
Parma is a city in northern Italy. Aquileria is an Italian city on the northernmost part of the Adriatic sea. There were Dukes of Parma from 1545 to 1803, then from 1814 to 1860, when Italy was unified. I suspect that this quatrain concerns one of these dukes. That said, I can figure out nothing else.
Bien contigue des grans monts Pyrenees,
Un contrrel aigle grand copie addresser :
Ouvertes veines, forces exterminees,
Que insque à Pau le chef viendra chasset.
The last line is the clue. Wellington and his forces went through Pau during the Peninsular War, leaving a garrison there. The Eagle is obviously Napoléon and the French Imperial Eagle. Wellington is therefore the one who directed the great army against the Eagle. The chief is, of course, Napoléon. Line 3 is more poetic in nature, but accurate enough, as French forces were exterminated during the fighting there (as well as in France against the last coalition).